
The VAULT
Derek, like all musicians,
has been involved in some projects that he just doesn't promote anymore. Its
not to say those projects are bad, they're just not what he sells. It's like how
people like John Lennon or Pete Townshend were in bands before getting
successful with the Beatles or the Who...but you don't really care about those
bands. You only care about the Beatles and the Who. Sure, the history's
interesting...but you fell in love with "Won't Get Fooled Again" and "Get Back."
This part of the site is dedicated to the stuff Derek thinks was fun and/or
interesting...but that he really hopes you don't love.
Welcome to the
VAULT!
T
Part of the reason
this never got finished is that, people don't understand this, it used to cost a
As I said, the material wasn't that
good, either. I still think there are a couple of interesting ideas there...but
the lyrics were amateurish and dull. I was trying WAY too hard to write
Christian material, and it showed. I don't think I've ever tried to salvage
anything from this tape...though there was a
Tony Gambill, who was engineering most of
it.
Rich Goodman, who engineered the rest and played some guitar.
David
Knobel, who drummed and drummed and drummed...and is still drumming.
Jason
Soroski, who played some bass.
Rich Guideswitz (?), who played some awesome
12-string.
Beth Ann Crouse (then called Beth Ann Puckett) who sang on a
track.
Kind of a shame I never did anything with it. I'll probably post a
few samples in the "downloads" section one of these days. It was about a
two-year process that I completely abandoned, and I feel bad that I wasted the
time of those six people, plus their families...and everyone that I forced to
listen to rough mixes and so on. Don't get me wrong, the SOUND was great. Tony
and/or Rich really knew what they were doing...I just wound up not liking the
songs enough to continue.
"Blameless"
"Blameless" would have followed "Acts of Man"
had I ever finished...well...either one.
Actually, I ended up harvesting a lot of the track-list for "Blameless"
to make up my first REAL solo-record ("Grounds"). This one never really
seriously made it to the recording stage. I demoed some stuff and gave copies to
I gigged pretty significantly around that time and I played a bunch of
the songs from this project. I kept digging them, and I kept playing them.
This one didn't quite fade away on me like "Acts of Man" had. At some point, I
realized that I could fairly quickly and inexpensively make a record on my
own terms with digital software that had become affordable since the "Acts of Man" days.
When I went to make that, I went back to the list that was going to appear
on this record, and that made up a large portion of the track-list of "Grounds." At
the time, I was even planning on still calling it "Blameless," but eventually I realized
there'd been a significant split between the two worlds, and even "Grounds"
wasn't going to keep fully representing where I was headed (and where I now
AM)...so I renamed it. It became "Grounds." It would never have been if not for
that one serious session in the church.
One day,
I plan on getting my hands on Tony's master-copy of this stuff
and properly mastering it for an internet release. It'd be interesting. I'm just
not sure how much he'll want me to pay him for it! (Tony's moved
on to being a very accomplished engineer, and now has a good head for business...back
when we did this, it was wing-and-a-prayer...but now there are papers with lines
to sign on them, alongside words like "intellectual property rights" and "fairly
compensated." ...and good for him! I'm actually pretty proud of
the guy.)
union jack
Part of me STILL misses this
band. This was my first real, decently successful project. Made up of myself on
bass and vocals, Marc Schneider on guitar and vocals, and Mike Hutter on the
drums, union jack (yes, it's supposed to be lowercase) was a really good trio.
We made a big noise, and it's a shame that egos got in the way and ended not
only the band, but for a long while my friendship with those guys (though we're
all on good terms now). This is all discussed elsewhere in my "bio" pages on the
site, but the short version is that I had a big head, I was pissed off, and I
was newly converted to Christianity...bad combination when you add in teenage
hormones and guitars.
union jack recorded extensively in basements across
the
The demo itself, titled "SEXATNOONTAXES" (a palindrome we thought
was awesome) was recorded by my friend Jimmy Manno in his old band's rehearsal
space (they were called Spoondrift, and I loved them). We did five tunes I've
never really done anything else with, since Marc really wrote them. I did,
however, recently lift a few lines from one of Marc's songs on that demo for
"Looking Back" on my "Things I Meant to Say" record. They fit, and they haven't
been used in like 12 years, so I stole them outright. (He has a credit in the
liner notes, though).
I think we did the whole thing in three sessions.
One for music, two for vocals--mostly because it would have been a bad idea at
that stage to have Marc and me in the same room doing vocal takes at the same
time. The signs of the end of the group were definitely amplified during those
sessions. I stand by the adage: "If you want to know if your band has
problems--record." This was to be our swan song. We got it done, and blew apart.
We might have gotten t-shirts after that, though...it's hard to
remember.
Uncle Dick - "One"
"One" was, suffice to say, Uncle
Dick's first recording. Once again, I found myself working with Tony Gambill as
engineer, who was right on the cusp of becoming a professional, and was still
tweaking his process, so he just charged us cost. Sucker. (Uhh...I mean, "Thanks,
Tony!") As I’ve said before...if you want to know if your band has
problems--record. This session brought a
We did 12 songs, 11 of them our
own, and one a cover of the title track from the movie "That Thing You Do"
(which EVERYONE does now...but we did it FIRST). At the time, that was pretty much
our entire repertoire. There are things we definitely should have done
differently--chief among them, we should have waited another week to do the
vocals, until Dave was over his cold. Could've used a little more bass-drum, but
that's my fault for approving it, not Tony's for mixing it. All in all, though,
I like it. I listened to it not too long ago. It's fun, and it's got a good edge
to it. Hopefully a future db.com download.
In the studio, it kind of brought to light some personal
disagreements, though. The drummer (Thatcher Bell) and guitarist (Blue Tattoo's
own Chris Teague) kind of developed a rift when Thatcher--in the interest of
progress, to be fair--kind of started stating some of Chris's mistakes in
a very direct way. (ie - Instead of saying, "I think you can do better," he'd say,
"Well, you need to redo that.") It was a small thing, but sometimes the small things
can be the most nagging (no offense to our midget readers). It wasn't too
long thereafter that we went our separate ways with Thatcher.
I think of
that recording session in two forms. One I'm proud of, the other irritated me.
The first day we went in to record, we had everything DONE except for the
vocals, which we'd have to do at a later date. We'd knocked out pretty much the
whole thing in a day, and we were happy...then we got sad. There was a problem
with the gear. A lot of stuff was just GONE. So, deflated, we set out to redo
it...and it got irritating. What we'd done in one day before now took us MONTHS.
Errors abounded in our playing, tensions were wearing thin, and our hearts just
weren't in it. We got through it, and we got it done...I just wish it'd left less
of a bad taste in my mouth. Ehh...can't win 'em all.
After Thatcher's
departure, we rejoined with our original drummer (and friend) Tim Heeley, and
for a time all was well...but the deathblow to the band was just around the corner
when Chris Teague would announce his departure. You can read about the last
gasps of the band either on my bio page...or you can read the summary of the
four-song EP (below) and see me tear that to shreds. I'd recommend both...but
if you only go with one, I think the EP thing is more fun to read.
Uncle Dick EP
Once Tim Heeley rejoined
Uncle Dick, things were looking up. The band sounded good, and we delivered
consistently. We even did our first (and only) acoustic show. Then, Chris left
the band to pursue, as he put it, "a normal life." Part of me knew right then
that we should have just stopped...but hindsight not having been a factor, we
limped toward the grave.
A guy named Jim Baker was selected to take the
spot of guitarist. Due to sharing a name with a disgraced TV evangelist, Jim
usually went by his middle name (Jimmy August), but for the sake of accuracy,
the truth of the matter is that his name's Baker. To his credit, he never tried
to steal even one penny of my money--at least not in the name of the Lord. Also
to his credit, he didn't mean to kill the band...he was just the wrong guy to fill
Chris's gigantic shoes--seriously, his feet are huge.
Jimmy was a metal
player. We were not a metal band. We never should have convinced ourselves that
we could make it work. You can change your hair, you can change your clothes,
you can change your opinion, and you can make change for a 20...but you can't
change how you play, and I'm not sure Jim even tried to. That's not to say he's
a bad guitarist. He's good. Very good. He knows a lot of stuff, and has some
interesting ideas. He just didn't fit...and like all things, that came through
clearly in the recording sessions.
I knew we were in trouble when he
asked to do his parts with the rest of the band out of the studio. I don't know
why we agreed to that...but we all went home, and suddenly there were a bunch of
guitar tracks laid down that were--let's just say "busy." I wrote the songs--every
note--and I didn't recognize them from hearing the guitar parts. I understand
wanting to give a song your own flair...but the guy just flat-out rewrote them.
And the kicker is, none of us said anything about it...we just copied it and
started handing it out--completely alienating our punk and hard rock
fans.
I don't have a copy of it. I threw all of my copies away. You'll
probably never see it on the "Downloads" page of this site. I just don't want to
remember Uncle Dick that way--as a mistake I made. (You'll notice that I don't
blame Jim. I blame myself, and to a larger extent my brother who also knew
better, even before I did). It was four songs done in two days...and I wish I had
those days to do over again. I kind of feel that way about that entire year. We
just should've made better decisions.
Time makes fools of us all...or at
least of me, Dave, and Tim.